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| Quote the cal train="the cal train"yet to see any glowing references about him as a bloke, has he actually been playing any games in Oz?'"
Steady.
He's only ever played one in SL never mind Oz.
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| Quote the cal train="the cal train"yet to see any glowing references about him as a bloke, has he actually been playing any games in Oz?'"
Never seen him play but according to another forum he played a month or two in the Roosters
lower grades, - before being shipped out to Redcliffe.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"(not a dig at you) In my opinion, it's a lazy way of trying to sound like some RL expert, we don't lack "game management", we lack "leadership and direction" (on and off the park)
there is no collision
there is no wrestle
these are made up terms.'"
There's no collision or wrestle?
Yet you think you are in a position to criticise our coach's lack of knowledge?!
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| Quote Wellsy13="Wellsy13"There's no collision or wrestle?
Yet you think you are in a position to criticise our coach's lack of knowledge?!'"
I am totally in a position to criticise a bully that runs a bar.
What is a "collision"
What is "the wrestle"
these are made up terms designed by Sky, there are play the balls, ball and all tackles, etc. but all this made up rugby league text speak is just nonsense.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"I am totally in a position to criticise a bully that runs a bar.
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You are getting personal again just like you did with Mr Agar. 
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| Wayne Bennett is back.
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| Quote WIZEB="WIZEB"You are getting personal again just like you did with Mr Agar.
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apologies, he's a model individual and has never intimidated anyone.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"apologies, he's a model individual and has never intimidated anyone.'"
Well he did quite scare THMISL and Mickey Vella but that's allowed. 
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| Quote Standee="Standee"I am totally in a position to criticise a bully that runs a bar.
What is a "collision"
What is "the wrestle"
these are made up terms designed by Sky, there are play the balls, ball and all tackles, etc. but all this made up rugby league text speak is just nonsense.'"
Beg to differ that they are made up terms from SKY and have no meaning.
The game has evolved, techniques and new terms too, same as Game Management.
They may be buzz words but they are now frequently used at all levels and all have meanings and a purpose.
Collision. Does the attacking player gain ground, push through the tackle area (advantage line) and gain a quick play the ball and/or manage to hit the deck finding his knee's. Or is the defence "DOMINANT" and take the player backwards, stop his momentum and negate a quick play. How many times do we talk about our halves being behind a beaten pack etc
This works into the wrestle, if one man/two men makes the tackle and player is stopped but allowed to play the ball quicker or hit the ground and get up tackle complete. puts defence on back foot if other players are making back the 10 metres. Or do you wrap up the man, clamp the ball in whilst keeping the tackle movement going so although the player is secure he is not 'Held'. Work him over, turtle onto his back with his head facing his own goal line. Or work him on the gorund so he is unable to get off until the defenders peel away, all done legally to slow the play the ball down.
Game management, choice of plays when in the lead or looking to get back into a close game. Taking less risky options, better kick choices, not getting tackled into touch on play 1 in your own 20, not giving away needless penalties or on the flip side giving them away at the right times. Even something as basic as not passing the ball if you dont need to (Leeds v Catalans in this years playoffs?) there is a lot more i could add to this but it is a worthwhile term IMHO
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| Quote Hutchie="Hutchie"Beg to differ that they are made up terms from SKY and have no meaning.
The game has evolved, techniques and new terms too, same as Game Management.
They may be buzz words but they are now frequently used at all levels and all have meanings and a purpose.
Collision. Does the attacking player gain ground, push through the tackle area (advantage line) and gain a quick play the ball and/or manage to hit the deck finding his knee's. Or is the defence "DOMINANT" and take the player backwards, stop his momentum and negate a quick play. How many times do we talk about our halves being behind a beaten pack etc
This works into the wrestle, if one man/two men makes the tackle and player is stopped but allowed to play the ball quicker or hit the ground and get up tackle complete. puts defence on back foot if other players are making back the 10 metres. Or do you wrap up the man, clamp the ball in whilst keeping the tackle movement going so although the player is secure he is not 'Held'. Work him over, turtle onto his back with his head facing his own goal line. Or work him on the gorund so he is unable to get off until the defenders peel away, all done legally to slow the play the ball down.
Game management, choice of plays when in the lead or looking to get back into a close game. Taking less risky options, better kick choices, not getting tackled into touch on play 1 in your own 20, not giving away needless penalties or on the flip side giving them away at the right times. Even something as basic as not passing the ball if you dont need to (Leeds v Catalans in this years playoffs?) there is a lot more i could add to this but it is a worthwhile term IMHO'"
it's very similar to "let's meet when we both have time" to "let's see if we can find a window in our schedule", both meant the same but the latter is used to sound more important.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"it's very similar to "let's meet when we both have time" to "let's see if we can find a window in our schedule", both meant the same but the latter is used to sound more important.'"
So Hutchie (a guy actually involved in the game) spends the time to give you a good response to your inane ramblings, and you just respond with more claptrap?
It's no wonder you and your opinion on here have such little credibility. You have a complete inability to back up your nonsense.
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| Quote Errlee Berd="Errlee Berd"So Hutchie (a guy actually involved in the game) spends the time to give you a good response to your inane ramblings, and you just respond with more claptrap?
It's no wonder you and your opinion on here have such little credibility. You have a complete inability to back up your nonsense.'"
I have every respect for Karl, but I don't have to agree (and he wouldn't expect me to pretend I did)
and when did I ever seek any credibility, my opinion is just that, my opinion, I've never cared what anyone else thinks.
I am consistent in that.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"I have every respect for Karl, but I don't have to agree (and he wouldn't expect me to pretend I did)
and when did I ever seek any credibility, my opinion is just that, my opinion, I've never cared what anyone else thinks.
I am consistent in that.'"
So he's explained what a collision is, what the wrestle is and what game management is, yet your response is to compare two sayings with similar meanings?
Ok. What else means "collision" in RL terms? Or "the wrestle" or "game management"?
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| Quote Wellsy13="Wellsy13"So he's explained what a collision is, what the wrestle is and what game management is, yet your response is to compare two sayings with similar meanings?
Ok. What else means "collision" in RL terms? Or "the wrestle" or "game management"?'"
no, my response is they are meaningless terms, overcomplicating a fairly simple game, it's an OPINION.
It's time some people realised that RLFans is about OPINION.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"I have every respect for Karl, but I don't have to agree (and he wouldn't expect me to pretend I did)
and when did I ever seek any credibility, my opinion is just that, my opinion, I've never cared what anyone else thinks.
I am consistent in that.'"
I think that you're probably the most consistent poster on here.
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| Standee wrote:
I am totally in a position to criticise a bully that runs a bar.
So you personally know Radford do you ? or you attend every Hull Fc training session and have seen Radford "bullying" players so make this statement or is it more of your made up claptrap.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"no, my response is they are meaningless terms, overcomplicating a fairly simple game, it's an OPINION.
It's time some people realised that RLFans is about OPINION.'"
Fine, but can you supply (in your opinion) the more uncomplicated and meaningful terms?
Do you have anything constructive to add to your constant predictive criticism’s?
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| Quote Isaiah="Isaiah"Fine, but can you supply (in your opinion) the more uncomplicated and meaningful terms?
Do you have anything constructive to add to your constant predictive criticism’s?'"
what utter nonsense
and the word you were looking for is "predictable" , case rests.
right left, or left right, which hand first?
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| Quote Isaiah="Isaiah"Do you have anything constructive to add?'"
Hope springs eternal.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"what utter nonsense
and the word you were looking for is "predictable" , case rests.
right left, or left right, which hand first?'"
So what you're saying is you can't come up with any "simpler" alternatives?
And if you're going to criticise how people write their responses, make sure yours is perfect. Capital letters would be a good start.
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| so many examples of why Hull is where it is.
We shall see next season, and the conversation can start over.
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| Quote Standee="Standee"what utter nonsense
and the word you were looking for is "predictable" , case rests.
right left, or left right, which hand first?'"
So that is a 'no' then?
How predictable
And 'predictive' was the word I was looking for HTH!
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| Quote Standee="Standee"so many examples of why Hull is where it is.
We shall see next season, and the conversation can start over.'"
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| Quote Standee="Standee"so many examples of why Hull is where it is.
We shall see next season, and the conversation can start over.'"
Hull's where it is because you can't think of any simpler terms for 'collision' 'wrestle' or 'game management'? Makes sense.
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